words@brothersgibb.com message digest 12/19/2012 18:01 (#2012-3845)

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1Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brotheryasdaz17@fastmail.fm
2Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brotheryasdaz17@fastmail.fm
3Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brotheryasdaz17@fastmail.fm
4legacy and disfunctionyasdaz17@fastmail.fm
5Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brotherjas92953@hotmail.com
6autographsh.benz@h-benz-gmbh.de
7Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brotherjas92953@hotmail.com
8legacy and disfunctionjrothke@gmail.com
9Day-By-Day Story 1945-1972APSAND@aol.com
10legacy and disfunctionmyka@qdots.net
11legacy and dysfunctionbbusch@mrnaturl.us
12Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brothercoldice1@yahoo.com
13legacy and disfunctiondiannaj1962@yahoo.com
14legacy and disfunctionjrothke@gmail.com
15legacy and disfunctionbbusch@mrnaturl.us
16legacy and disfunctionjojodelude@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:10:40 -0800 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother I know there were instances like the ones you mentioned, including his reaction to being seriously ill, where his reactions/actions were not what we would hope an adult, mature person would do, sigh.... I guess I was meaning more generally, though the course of his life. Of course we are not privy to a lot and maybe I am wrong, but I certainly never heard about any prolonged period where Robin's lack of practicality (if we wish to put it that way) did serious damage to his life, except maybe through the period just before, during and after the divorce where he seems to have had what might be called an emotional breakdown, compounded by amphetamine use (and at the end of his life when he did not get treatment when he should have). Again, maybe I am wrong, but do you see what I am trying to say? He was not like some of these stars who can't manage to get a grip on their own behaviour (especially in public) and end up appearing like complete losers (for lack of a better term) who can't even pick up a toothbrush, they are so incapable of living in any sort of reality. Yasmine On 12/17/2012 11:55 AM, Kate wrote: > Hello Yasmine, > >> If that is the case, I am surprised >> that he managed as well as he seemed to in terms of husbanding his >> money, not going off the rails emotionally (at least not publicly), >> etc.... > To me it all seemed quite messy to say the least. I understand > he was never really actively engaged in financial matters, etc. > As for going off the rails, he famously lost it at the airport > twice and at the hospital once--that is, only counting the times > that were publicly reported in the press. > > I think, he "went off the rails emotionally" in the worst > possible manner when he was faced with the health issues. You > once said that once he got over the denial stage, he seemed to > go in to the automatic fighting mode. But, as Ann Grootjans > recently revealed, that was not the case. He was diagnosed in > April, and, even though he was already in a very advanced stage, > the treatment was delayed for another five months. Even then, in > early September, the prognosis wasn't all that bad from what I > heard. However, Robin would not comply with his doctors. And it > had the most tragic outcome, as we all know. > > Kate > > > Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > >> Thanks, Kate, for your opinions. Obviously I was never privy to the >> inner workings of Robin's life and maybe you are right that he had that >> much trouble coping with life. If that was the case, then certainly it >> would have been Molly and then Dwina who would be most "in charge" of >> the day to day, nitty gritty aspects of life. I can't imagine anyone >> else who would be taking responsibility. I just keep thinking that, >> even if it is true, it is a neat way to evade responsibility. I don't >> mean deliberately, nor that the wives (or whomever) took advantage (not >> privy to that much detail, lol!), but the bottom line is still a very >> problematic picture of an adult (albeit an artist) who did not (could >> not?) take control of his life. If that is the case, I am surprised >> that he managed as well as he seemed to in terms of husbanding his >> money, not going off the rails emotionally (at least not publicly), >> etc.... Well, unless someone in the "inner circle" manages to pen a >> "tell all" I guess we shall never know much (boy would I love, love to >> hear something from Molly about what he must have been like when she >> knew him). Would make sense of what glimpses we have gotten over the >> years about him being in trouble in the late 70's, his amphetamine use >> and emotional state after the divorce, I guess. Yasmine >> On 12/14/2012 12:54 PM, Kate wrote: >>> Hello Yasmine, >>> >>>> at least they >>>> seemed to be able to pull it together publicly for the funeral. >>> But judging from the graveside pictures, there was very little >>> interaction between two parties. >>> >>>> See, whenever I heard Barry say it was about the people around >>>> Robin, I figured he was either lying to not make the situation worse by >>>> directly nailing Robin or was in denial because who was it that chose >>>> those people in the first place? I mean I have not heard of Robin >>>> easily being taken advantage of in general, which is Barry's >>>> implication. >>> I myself feel otherwise. Robin clearly had trouble coping with >>> the practical aspects of life. And IMO a lot of troubles in his >>> life stemmed from this inability of his. I think it was a >>> double-edged sword. It kept him the artist he was, but it made >>> him very vulnerable in many ways. >>> >>> Kate >>> >>> >>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >>> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>> >>> To change any of your list options, >>> please go to website listed above. >>> >> >> >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >> >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:23:54 -0800 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother He mentioned her name when accepting the Brit lifetime award in 1997, when thanking all the wives, lol! Yes, he has never mentioned her in an interview setting but then had Robin ever mentioned Linda? I can't see Dwina and Barry having anything in common to begin; their personal philosophies of how to live life seem quite different. That does not necessarily mean a rift but, especially if she was the one who controlled communication while Robin was ill and thus made it hard/impossible for him to get a hold of Robin, I can see Barry at the least washing his hands of her. Yasmine On 12/18/2012 2:26 PM, compoccias@aol.com wrote: > > >> I wonder if this has anything to do with Barry never saying anything about >> Dwina. I don't know if I have ever heard him mention her. I heard there was >> never any love lost between Barry and Dwina. I don't know if it is true.... >> Timelessbeegees > Come to think of it, I cannot recall one time when Barry mentioned her. Even after Robin died. > > Sal > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Farrar > To: words List Member > Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 4:43 pm > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother > > > > wonder if this has anything to do with Barry never saying anything about > wina. I don't know if I have ever heard him mention her. I heard there was > ever any love lost between Barry and Dwina. I don't know if it is true.... > imelessbeegees >> From: jrothke@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:21:24 -0800 > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother > To: words@brothersgibb.com > > I've tried but can't figure out Dwina's motivation in shutting down Robin's > site. It meant a great deal to his fans.Her action seems cruel to me. > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Cold Ice wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "compoccias@aol.com" > > > > > Dwina has mentioned the planned big tribute for Robin next year in the > > UK. > > > > > > Did she? When? > > > > Funny thing is that she just shut down the last remaining active part of > > his website - the fan forum. What a nice attempt to keep his memory living, > > isn't it? > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > ttp://www.brothersgibb.com > To change any of your list options, > lease go to website listed above. > > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:28:52 -0800 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother I wonder why. It would seem obvious to keep some form of web presence up, at least until traffic dwindled to very little. From what was said, it seems like the forum was still active. It is not a big deal to hire someone to keep an eye on it, to update it if needed/wanted, etc.... It is too bad because a website is one simple, easy way to keep Robin's professional memory alive. Yasmine On 12/19/2012 2:07 AM, Cold Ice wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judith Farrar > >> Sal, I share your feelings > > Me too. My whole impression is based on what I've read and seen during the last 2 years. This is enough to make some analysis and valid rational assumptions. > > Imho, Dwina and her son will do nothing more to keep the memory of Robin alive. > All the efforts that Robin invested in his website, in his public activities, etc., will simply fade away. The same will happen with the TR and his other music works. You can figure out what will be the outcome of this in the not-so-long run. > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:40:48 -0800 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: legacy and disfunction Hi, for all of you wondering why our endless speculation about the brothers' relationship is important, their legacy not being upheld, promoted, is one result, I think, of the disfunction in their relationship. Yes, we will see how Barry upholds his legacy and the Bee Gee legacy but, for instance, I can't see him doing much with the reissues (hope I am wrong but not holding my breath). If they had been able to come together more, seen eye to eye more, there would have been more of a "sucession" plan, I would suppose, where how they were to be promoted or remembered would have been mapped out. For instance, I always thought it was beyond weird that they did not have their own Bee Gee website, that the only official Bee Gee website was through their record companies. If they had their own website, with an agreement about how to keep it going, for instance, Robin's site shutting down would not have mattered as much. If they had a plan, no widow would be able to derail anything by inaction, certainly. I just get so frustrated by this because there was so much potential throughout their career and now after to promote themselves, to heighten their image and legacy and they let these opportunities slip through their fingers. I think at the very least the dysfunctional part of their relationship was responsible for a chunk of that lack of capitalization of their promotional potential, especially if there was disagreement on how to promote. Yasmine Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:54:26 -0800 From: Judith Farrar <jas92953@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother Did Barry mention Dwina during his eulogy for Robin? Timelessbeegees > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:23:54 -0800 > From: yasdaz17@fastmail.fm > To: words@brothersgibb.com > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother >=20 > He mentioned her name when accepting the Brit lifetime award in 1997,=20 > when thanking all the wives, lol! Yes, he has never mentioned her in an=20 > interview setting but then had Robin ever mentioned Linda? I can't see=20 > Dwina and Barry having anything in common to begin; their personal=20 > philosophies of how to live life seem quite different. That does not=20 > necessarily mean a rift but, especially if she was the one who=20 > controlled communication while Robin was ill and thus made it=20 > hard/impossible for him to get a hold of Robin, I can see Barry at the=20 > least washing his hands of her. Yasmine > On 12/18/2012 2:26 PM, compoccias@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >> I wonder if this has anything to do with Barry never saying anything about > >> Dwina. I don't know if I have ever heard him mention her. I heard there was > >> never any love lost between Barry and Dwina. I don't know if it is true.... > >> Timelessbeegees > > Come to think of it, I cannot recall one time when Barry mentioned her. Even after Robin died. > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Judith Farrar > > To: words List Member > > Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 4:43 pm > > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother > > > > > > > > wonder if this has anything to do with Barry never saying anything about > > wina. I don't know if I have ever heard him mention her. I heard there was > > ever any love lost between Barry and Dwina. I don't know if it is true.... > > imelessbeegees > >> From: jrothke@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:21:24 -0800 > > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother > > To: words@brothersgibb.com > > =20 > > I've tried but can't figure out Dwina's motivation in shutting down Robin's > > site. It meant a great deal to his fans.Her action seems cruel to me. > > =20 > > =20 > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Cold Ice wrote: > > =20 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "compoccias@aol.com" > > > > > > > Dwina has mentioned the planned big tribute for Robin next year in the > > > UK. > > > > > > > > > Did she? When? > > > > > > Funny thing is that she just shut down the last remaining active part of > > > his website - the fan forum. What a nice attempt to keep his memory living, > > > isn't it? > > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > > > To change any of your list options, > > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > =20 > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > =09 > > > > Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > ttp://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > > lease go to website listed above. > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com=20 >=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. >=20 =20 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:00:22 +0100 From: Hartmuth Benz <h.benz@h-benz-gmbh.de> Subject: autographs my question since years is: Why does Barry wrote his autograph so often at the place Robin had to do and why does Robin wrote his autograph so often at the place Barry had to do. It must have occurred in full intention. (hope you understand what I mean and excuse my poorly english.)=20 Hartmuth Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:00:49 -0800 From: Judith Farrar <jas92953@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother Any speculation why there was nearly a 3 week span between Robin's death and his funeral? Is this customary in the UK? Timelesbeegees=20 > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:36:15 -0800 > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother > From: diannaj1962@yahoo.com > To: words@brothersgibb.com >=20 > Dwina comes off as a not so motivated person. She has all the money she needs and at a point if and when she may run low o money she will dig into Robins collection and will have some of his music released but until then you wont hear another word from >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: Cold Ice =20 > Date: =20 > To: words List Member =20 > Subject: [words] Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judith Farrar >=20 > >Sal, I share your feelings >=20 >=20 > Me too. My whole impression is based on what I've read and seen during the last 2 years. This is enough to make some analysis and valid rational assumptions. >=20 > Imho, Dwina and her son will do nothing more to keep the memory of Robin alive.=20 > All the efforts that Robin invested in his website, in his public activities, etc., will simply fade away. The same will happen with the TR and his other music works. You can figure out what will be the outcome of this in the not-so-long run. >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com >=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. >=20 =20 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:42:50 -0800 From: Joy Rothke <jrothke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: legacy and disfunction I wish Spencer or Sam or Stephen or some other tech savvy younger family member would step in and manage the online presence. AFAIK, there is no official Mo web site, Robin's is gone and Barry's is rarely updated and very skimpy. RJ's personal site was fairly nice, but hasn't been touched since Robin's death. There appears to be no TR promotion, which is curious, since it's his first big piece and his father's final legacy. So many lost opportunities. -Joy On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > Hi, for all of you wondering why our endless speculation about the > brothers' relationship is important, their legacy not being upheld, > promoted, is one result, I think, of the disfunction in their relationship. > Yes, we will see how Barry upholds his legacy and the Bee Gee legacy but, > for instance, I can't see him doing much with the reissues (hope I am wrong > but not holding my breath). If they had been able to come together more, > seen eye to eye more, there would have been more of a "sucession" plan, I > would suppose, where how they were to be promoted or remembered would have > been mapped out. For instance, I always thought it was beyond weird that > they did not have their own Bee Gee website, that the only official Bee Gee > website was through their record companies. If they had their own website, > with an agreement about how to keep it going, for instance, Robin's site > shutting down would not have mattered as much. If they had a plan, no > widow would be able to derail anything by inaction, certainly. I just get > so frustrated by this because there was so much potential throughout their > career and now after to promote themselves, to heighten their image and > legacy and they let these opportunities slip through their fingers. I > think at the very least the dysfunctional part of their relationship was > responsible for a chunk of that lack of capitalization of their promotional > potential, especially if there was disagreement on how to promote. Yasmine > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: APSAND@aol.com Subject: Bee Gees: Day-By-Day Story 1945-1972 The book is available in all territories as far as I know. I do apologize for the high price and the change in price; it has been the subject of some dispute between myself and the publisher. I hope the quality of the information transcends some of these issues. A Kindle edition will be available in the next week or two. Very best, Andrew Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:28:47 +0900 From: Kate <myka@qdots.net> Subject: Re: legacy and disfunction The Bee Gees website that was launched by the record company in 2009 was supposed to supersede the individual sites in due time. But probably due to the change of management at Rhino/Warner, it never materialized. Hope Barry as the last one standing will see to their online presence. Their legacy must live on. For a while it seemed as though it was his intention. His website was revamped a bit to include the categories dedicated to each brother (under the "Music" section). But none of the links is working as yet. Kate Joy Rothke wrote: > I wish Spencer or Sam or Stephen or some other tech savvy younger family > member would step in and manage the online presence. AFAIK, there is no > official Mo web site, Robin's is gone and Barry's is rarely updated and > very skimpy. > > RJ's personal site was fairly nice, but hasn't been touched since Robin's > death. There appears to be no TR promotion, which is curious, since it's > his first big piece and his father's final legacy. > > So many lost opportunities. > > -Joy > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > > > Hi, for all of you wondering why our endless speculation about the > > brothers' relationship is important, their legacy not being upheld, > > promoted, is one result, I think, of the disfunction in their relationship. > > Yes, we will see how Barry upholds his legacy and the Bee Gee legacy but, > > for instance, I can't see him doing much with the reissues (hope I am wrong > > but not holding my breath). If they had been able to come together more, > > seen eye to eye more, there would have been more of a "sucession" plan, I > > would suppose, where how they were to be promoted or remembered would have > > been mapped out. For instance, I always thought it was beyond weird that > > they did not have their own Bee Gee website, that the only official Bee Gee > > website was through their record companies. If they had their own website, > > with an agreement about how to keep it going, for instance, Robin's site > > shutting down would not have mattered as much. If they had a plan, no > > widow would be able to derail anything by inaction, certainly. I just get > > so frustrated by this because there was so much potential throughout their > > career and now after to promote themselves, to heighten their image and > > legacy and they let these opportunities slip through their fingers. I > > think at the very least the dysfunctional part of their relationship was > > responsible for a chunk of that lack of capitalization of their promotional > > potential, especially if there was disagreement on how to promote. Yasmine > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:29:15 -0500 From: "Bill Busch" <bbusch@mrnaturl.us> Subject: legacy and dysfunction Thing is one doesn't really have to be tech savvy anymore to maintain a web presence. There are programs out there (some hosts provide free ones) to create a web site with very minimal user input and effort. Look at Spencer's site. Positively no effort went into creating it. Ok, a very tiny bit of effort and only because he has a store (with nothing for sale, as he states the limited edition CD's are no longer available) It's all about WANTING to do something and it's rather obvious, NONE of the Gibbs want to. This is the age of the Internet. You simply can no longer get away with being lackadaisical about your web presence and expect to stay relevant! Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: words@brothersgibb.com [mailto:words@brothersgibb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Rothke > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:43 PM > To: words List Member > Subject: [words] legacy and disfunction > > I wish Spencer or Sam or Stephen or some other tech savvy younger family > member would step in and manage the online presence. AFAIK, there is no > official Mo web site, Robin's is gone and Barry's is rarely updated and > very skimpy. > > RJ's personal site was fairly nice, but hasn't been touched since Robin's > death. There appears to be no TR promotion, which is curious, since it's > his first big piece and his father's final legacy. > > So many lost opportunities. > > -Joy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:37:05 -0800 (PST) From: Cold Ice <coldice1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Last Bee Gee reveals rift with brother ----- Original Message ----- From: Yasmine Ghulamali >I wonder why.=A0 It would seem obvious to keep some form of web presence=20 >up, at least until traffic dwindled to very little.=A0 From what was said,=20 >it seems like the forum was still active.=A0 It is not a big deal to hire=20 >someone to keep an eye on it, to update it if needed/wanted, etc....=A0 It=20 >is too bad because a website is one simple, easy way to keep Robin's=20 >professional memory alive.=A0 That is the obvious thing to do. In today's world you're nobody if you're not on the Internet. And Robin obviously knew that. That's why he had invested so much in creating and=A0 constantly updating his website, in keeping its contemporary design and applying all popular tools to attract=A0visitors (the last major site upgrade was in April 2011). The site content was quite valuable - many photos, video clips and audio clips that weren't available elsewhere. There=A0 was also an online shop for Robin's and Bee Gees music. In two words - this was one of the fews really living places=A0for all stuff Bee Gees-related - and the only official one. I can't find any single logical reason to shut down this place. Maintaining the site and paying for the hosting doesn't cost too much. The only reason that comes to my mind is laziness and disregard. Remember what experience Ann Grootjans shared here. Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:50:46 -0800 From: diannaj1962 <diannaj1962@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: legacy and disfunction ----_com.android.email_40472857545660-- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:06:12 -0800 From: Joy Rothke <jrothke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: legacy and disfunction I follow B on Twitter [along with 12,386 others--not many at all], but he hasn't Tweeted since July 27. I think it's fair to say he doesn't "get" social media. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, diannaj1962 wrote: > Barry has a twitter account also I think the more people that sign up for > both his FB and twitter accounts and post on those sites may find he comes > on those sites more and thus show him we still really care to hear more > from him ..His FB account only has 9700 people signed into it which I know > there are alot more fans out there than that but we are the ones that need > to really show him we really want to here more from him. If not he will not > bother to maintain them as he is not doing much of . We all know what it > takes to get him to come out of the woodwork and now we just need to > motivate him by going to his sites and tell him. If not he will take down > his sites again and not bother with them if we dont bother to show him how > much we care. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Kate > Date: > To: words List Member > Subject: [words] legacy and disfunction > > The Bee Gees website that was launched by the record company in > 2009 was supposed to supersede the individual sites in due time. > But probably due to the change of management at Rhino/Warner, it > never materialized. > > Hope Barry as the last one standing will see to their online > presence. Their legacy must live on. For a while it seemed as > though it was his intention. His website was revamped a bit > to include the categories dedicated to each brother (under the > "Music" section). But none of the links is working as yet. > > Kate > > > Joy Rothke wrote: > > > I wish Spencer or Sam or Stephen or some other tech savvy younger family > > member would step in and manage the online presence. AFAIK, there is no > > official Mo web site, Robin's is gone and Barry's is rarely updated and > > very skimpy. > > > > RJ's personal site was fairly nice, but hasn't been touched since Robin's > > death. There appears to be no TR promotion, which is curious, since it's > > his first big piece and his father's final legacy. > > > > So many lost opportunities. > > > > -Joy > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Yasmine Ghulamali >wrote: > > > > > Hi, for all of you wondering why our endless speculation about the > > > brothers' relationship is important, their legacy not being upheld, > > > promoted, is one result, I think, of the disfunction in their > relationship. > > > Yes, we will see how Barry upholds his legacy and the Bee Gee legacy > but, > > > for instance, I can't see him doing much with the reissues (hope I am > wrong > > > but not holding my breath). If they had been able to come together > more, > > > seen eye to eye more, there would have been more of a "sucession" > plan, I > > > would suppose, where how they were to be promoted or remembered would > have > > > been mapped out. For instance, I always thought it was beyond weird > that > > > they did not have their own Bee Gee website, that the only official > Bee Gee > > > website was through their record companies. If they had their own > website, > > > with an agreement about how to keep it going, for instance, Robin's > site > > > shutting down would not have mattered as much. If they had a plan, no > > > widow would be able to derail anything by inaction, certainly. I just > get > > > so frustrated by this because there was so much potential throughout > their > > > career and now after to promote themselves, to heighten their image and > > > legacy and they let these opportunities slip through their fingers. I > > > think at the very least the dysfunctional part of their relationship > was > > > responsible for a chunk of that lack of capitalization of their > promotional > > > potential, especially if there was disagreement on how to promote. > Yasmine > > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > To change any of your list options, > > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:35:33 -0500 From: "Bill Busch" <bbusch@mrnaturl.us> Subject: legacy and disfunction I'm one of those 12,000+ and everyone once in a while I think to myself, "Geez, another month gone by and not a word from him. Why do I bother?" I think he gets social media, he just may not like it. For the most part, I think social media has become a necessary evil. Contrary to someone else's idea that the more people sign up, the more the person will come to the site, that's NOT at all true. One MUST be active and show a willingness to provide content in order to garner followers. It does not & will never work the other way around. Look at all the highly subscribed pages and Twitter accounts. The person/entity/artist is always providing content. Even Richard Marx, who hasn't been truly relevant since 1994, hasn't been on Twitter that long and has over 41K followers because he tweets a lot. Barry has tweeted 28 times since his first one on May 26, 2011 (18 months and yes, I have WAY too much time on my hands today!!) .... he's lucky to have 12K followers. He won't get many more if he doesn't show a willingness to provide content. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: words@brothersgibb.com [mailto:words@brothersgibb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Rothke > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:06 PM > To: words List Member > Subject: [words] legacy and disfunction > > I follow B on Twitter [along with 12,386 others--not many at all], but he > hasn't Tweeted since July 27. I think it's fair to say he doesn't "get" > social media. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:39:50 -0800 From: JoAnn Hattan <jojodelude@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: legacy and disfunction I'm on Barry's FB and Twitter and can honestly say I have given up on him posting anything. It would be nice seeing a pic of him rehearsing with Steve and Sam or a tweet about his upcoming shows. JoAnn Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:35 PM, "Bill Busch" wrote: > I'm one of those 12,000+ and everyone once in a while I think to myself, > "Geez, another month gone by and not a word from him. Why do I bother?" > I think he gets social media, he just may not like it. For the most part, I > think social media has become a necessary evil. >=20 > Contrary to someone else's idea that the more people sign up, the more the > person will come to the site, that's NOT at all true. > One MUST be active and show a willingness to provide content in order to > garner followers. It does not & will never work the other way around. > Look at all the highly subscribed pages and Twitter accounts. The > person/entity/artist is always providing content. > Even Richard Marx, who hasn't been truly relevant since 1994, hasn't been on > Twitter that long and has over 41K followers because he tweets a lot. >=20 > Barry has tweeted 28 times since his first one on May 26, 2011 (18 months > and yes, I have WAY too much time on my hands today!!) .... he's lucky to > have 12K followers. > He won't get many more if he doesn't show a willingness to provide content. >=20 > Bill >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: words@brothersgibb.com [mailto:words@brothersgibb.com] On Behalf Of > Joy Rothke >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:06 PM >> To: words List Member >> Subject: [words] legacy and disfunction >>=20 >> I follow B on Twitter [along with 12,386 others--not many at all], but he >> hasn't Tweeted since July 27. I think it's fair to say he doesn't "get" >> social media. >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com=20 >=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. >=20 End words@brothersgibb.com message digest 12/19/2012 18:01 (#2012-3845)