(#2002-3279) - Topics this issue: 1) A book by Barry ?, 2) singing and writing, 3) Digest (11/22/2002 12:01) (#2002-3278), 4) Digest (11/22/2002 12:01) (#2002-3278), 5) Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums, 6) Recording other's Music, 7) Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums, 8) A book by Barry ?, 9) Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums, 10) CO-WRITING, 11) Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums, 12) CO-WRITING, 13) Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:18:07 +0100 From: "Toni Quintana" Subject: Re: A book by Barry ? Thanx for the info Ronnie. Toni. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Olsson" To: "words List Member" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: A book by Barry ? 02-11-22 17.46, skrev Toni Quintana på toquisa@terra.es följande: > Hi. > > Please take a look at this....., Anybody heard about it?. > > Toni. > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440040728/qid%3D1037983457/sr%3D11-1 /r > ef%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-5517428-0113420#product-details That's the old 1979 biography written by David Leaf in co-operation with Barry, Robin and Maurice. If you click on the "Used & New" link you'll see all the sellers offering the item and you'll see prices and condition of the item in question. Ronnie Olsson The Omnipotent King of Scania Wanted List - http://klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:30:42 +0100 From: Ronnie Olsson Subject: Re: singing and writing As fans of the Bee Gees I think we might have all been spoiled rotten by the fact that the Bee Gees never release a non-Gibb song on any of their own records. Not even on their solo albums which could be an ideal opportunity to try things they never have done before (as Robin possibly is trying here). At this moment few of us, if any at all, knows the extent of Robin's involvement in the songwriting on the new album. Yes, Please is not written by Robin (nor his brothers) and there are two more tracks on single that are non-Gibb songs as well, so what. Phil Collins latest single, which is really good btw, isn't written by him at all. We don't know how many tracks are on the album. There might be only 10, there might be 15 or more and who knows, Robin might have been involved with the rest of the songs or the majority of them. Now, Bee Gees as a group, should they decide to record songs not written by them and release them on one of their own albums I would probably feel a bit cheated, not that I wouldn't like their interpretation of it but I expect the three of them to come up with enough songs to fill a Bee Gees album. If one of the boys should even open his mouth and propose they ought to cover another artist's/group's/songwriter's song on their next album I'd personally lay him over my lap and give him the spanking of a lifetime. On a Bee Gees album I want Bee Gees songs and nothing else, if they want to record and release other people's work I expect to find it on tribute albums, soundtracks and such, not on an album that has the Bee Gees logo on it. So far I have yet to see a song not written by the Gibbs on a Bee Gees album, thankfully those songs have been put on compilations, soundtracks, singles and tributes where they belong. Plus the fact that the more Gibb songs there are on their albums the more money they get ;) In short: - non-Gibb songs on solo albums: OK - non-Gibb songs on a Bee Gees album: a big NO-NO Ronnie Olsson The Omnipotent King of Scania Wanted List - http://klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:43:42 -0000 From: "Maggie Bleksley" Subject: Re: Digest (11/22/2002 12:01) (#2002-3278) > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:42:31 -0800 > From: "Stanbery, Rhonda" > Subject: RE: singing and writing > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29246.2670FC20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well I do not post that much but I feel strongly about responding to this. > I am a fan of the brothers. I don't care if they sing their own songs or > anyone else's. It is still the Bee Gees singing and that is really all that > matters to me. As far as Robin's new album goes, how can you pass judgment > on something that you haven't listened to. I am sure the brothers like and > respect other writers, so why not record some of their music. And think how > honored these writers must be to have the brothers record their songs. Just > my opinion. > > Rhonda Rhonda, if that's addressed to me, I'm afraid you've got the wrong end of the stick. I wasn't passing judgement on the new CD - far from it. The point I was trying to make is exactly what you're saying - why shouldn't they record other people's material? I was just a bit more long-winded than you. Maggie > -----Original Message----- > From: Maggie Bleksley [mailto:maggie-bleksley@supanet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:12 AM > To: words List Member > Subject: singing and writing > Another point I'd like to make is that Cliff Richard Elvis Presley, Dionne > Warwick, Barbra Streisand and many other great artists rarely, if ever at > all, wrote their own songs, but they have, justifiably, achieved great > admiration purely for their singing. By the same token, there are many great > songwriters hardly known at all for their singing. The Bee Gees have > achieved fame and admiration for both their songwriting AND their singing - > two great talents in one. Why should we slam any of them for singing someone > else's material once in a while, as long as it doesn't become too much of a > habit? > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > ---- > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. > > To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to > postmaster@littler.com > > Littler Mendelson, P.C. > http://www.littler.com > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29246.2670FC20-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:56:03 +0100 > From: Ronnie Olsson > Subject: Re: A book by Barry ? > > 02-11-22 17.46, skrev Toni Quintana p=E5 toquisa@terra.es f=F6ljande: > > > Hi. > >=20 > > Please take a look at this....., Anybody heard about it?. > >=20 > > Toni. > >=20 > >=20 > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440040728/qid%3D1037983457/sr%3D1= > 1-1/r > > ef%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-5517428-0113420#product-details > > That's the old 1979 biography written by David Leaf in co-operation with > Barry, Robin and Maurice. If you click on the "Used & New" link you'll see > all the sellers offering the item and you'll see prices and condition of th= > e > item in question. > > > Ronnie Olsson > > The Omnipotent King of Scania > Wanted List - http://klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > > ------------------------------ > > End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [11/22/2002 12:01] > ---------------------------------------------------- > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:38:18 -0800 From: "Stanbery, Rhonda" Subject: RE: Digest (11/22/2002 12:01) (#2002-3278) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2924D.F1AAB9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Maggie, I should have made myself clearer. I was, in fact, agreeing wholeheartedly with you. -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Bleksley [mailto:maggie-bleksley@supanet.com] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: words List Member Subject: Re: Digest (11/22/2002 12:01) (#2002-3278) > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:42:31 -0800 > From: "Stanbery, Rhonda" > Subject: RE: singing and writing > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29246.2670FC20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well I do not post that much but I feel strongly about responding to this. > I am a fan of the brothers. I don't care if they sing their own songs or > anyone else's. It is still the Bee Gees singing and that is really all that > matters to me. As far as Robin's new album goes, how can you pass judgment > on something that you haven't listened to. I am sure the brothers like and > respect other writers, so why not record some of their music. And think how > honored these writers must be to have the brothers record their songs. Just > my opinion. > > Rhonda Rhonda, if that's addressed to me, I'm afraid you've got the wrong end of the stick. I wasn't passing judgement on the new CD - far from it. The point I was trying to make is exactly what you're saying - why shouldn't they record other people's material? I was just a bit more long-winded than you. Maggie > -----Original Message----- > From: Maggie Bleksley [mailto:maggie-bleksley@supanet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:12 AM > To: words List Member > Subject: singing and writing > Another point I'd like to make is that Cliff Richard Elvis Presley, Dionne > Warwick, Barbra Streisand and many other great artists rarely, if ever at > all, wrote their own songs, but they have, justifiably, achieved great > admiration purely for their singing. By the same token, there are many great > songwriters hardly known at all for their singing. The Bee Gees have > achieved fame and admiration for both their songwriting AND their singing - > two great talents in one. Why should we slam any of them for singing someone > else's material once in a while, as long as it doesn't become too much of a > habit? > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > ---- > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. > > To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to > postmaster@littler.com > > Littler Mendelson, P.C. > http://www.littler.com > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29246.2670FC20-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:56:03 +0100 > From: Ronnie Olsson > Subject: Re: A book by Barry ? > > 02-11-22 17.46, skrev Toni Quintana p=E5 toquisa@terra.es f=F6ljande: > > > Hi. > >=20 > > Please take a look at this....., Anybody heard about it?. > >=20 > > Toni. > >=20 > >=20 > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440040728/qid%3D1037983457/sr%3D1= > 1-1/r > > ef%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-5517428-0113420#product-details > > That's the old 1979 biography written by David Leaf in co-operation with > Barry, Robin and Maurice. If you click on the "Used & New" link you'll see > all the sellers offering the item and you'll see prices and condition of th= > e > item in question. > > > Ronnie Olsson > > The Omnipotent King of Scania > Wanted List - http://klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > > ------------------------------ > > End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [11/22/2002 12:01] > ---------------------------------------------------- > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ---- This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for th To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@littler.com Littler Mendelson, P.C. http://www.littler.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2924D.F1AAB9B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:44:13 -0800 From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" Subject: Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C29214.18BFF630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blue Weaver told me he wrote The Way It Was instrumental and presented = it to Barry. Then they worked on the lyrics, which is why Barry is also = listed as a writer, basically for being just a lyricist. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C29214.18BFF630-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:56:45 EST From: Artsypooh@aol.com Subject: Re: Recording other's Music --part1_1c4.1f27d80.2b0fe5fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/22/02 2:16:57 AM Central Standard Time, brian.nelson@fullspectrumrecords.com writes: > It's really a matter of whether they love music for music's sake, or just > love themselves. I doubt any of them are as stuck on themselves as are > many of us fans. > HI, Brian, I appreciate your analogies. My "writers" analogy wasn't as appropriate. I find it hard to believe that Robin doesn't have more music written and stuffed in nooks and crannies or floating around in his head than he could ever record. That's just my opinion, not undisputed fact since I have never been privy to Robin's nooks, crannies and/or brain. Still being the opinion that Robin is doing what he wants to do exactly how he wants to do it, I suggest that maybe he's saving "his" writing for a future Bee Gees project. Maybe he is recording new versions of previously recorded songs because he really, really likes them and wants to put a new spin on them. Maybe he is recording songs written by someone else because he likes them. I simply don't have a problem with him recording someone else's songs. I just read a post by a fellow member who wants to send him some of her songs. What if he liked it and wanted to record it? Would that be so horrible? Would we congratulate our fellow member and think what a great guy Robin is to help a new songwriter start a career off with a big Gibb bang or would we say that he obviously has no songs of his own or he wouldn't accept the work of an unknown songwriter? (No offense to my songwriting fellow member. I wish you all the luck in the world and encourage you to send a song to Robin or to whomever you think is right for your song. You never know what might happen.) Patty EON --part1_1c4.1f27d80.2b0fe5fd_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:16:03 +0100 From: Ronnie Olsson Subject: Re: Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums 02-11-22 19.44, skrev FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS p=E5 brian.nelson@fullspectrumrecords.com f=F6ljande: > Blue Weaver told me he wrote The Way It Was instrumental and presented it= to > Barry. Then they worked on the lyrics, which is why Barry is also listed= as a > writer, basically for being just a lyricist. Splitting hairs, Brian, if a Gibb has any involvement in a song no matter who wrote what, lyrics or music and to what degree, I regard that a Gibb song. Then there is Albhy too on a few songs.... Then there is Vince's song on Idea but I the Gibb involvement in that is little to nothing. Other than Mo adding vocals I doubt Barry is on it at all. http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:19:51 EST From: Artsypooh@aol.com Subject: Re: A book by Barry ? --part1_3f.14c6dc53.2b0feb67_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/22/02 10:47:53 AM Central Standard Time, toquisa@terra.es writes: > Please take a look at this....., Anybody heard about it?. > HI, Toni, That is the biography from 1979. Patty --part1_3f.14c6dc53.2b0feb67_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:28:29 EST From: Artsypooh@aol.com Subject: Re: Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums --part1_c1.2a9e2774.2b0fed6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/22/02 1:09:01 PM Central Standard Time, brian.nelson@fullspectrumrecords.com writes: > Blue Weaver told me he wrote The Way It Was instrumental and presented it to > Barry. Then they worked on the lyrics, which is why Barry is also listed > as a writer, basically for being just a lyricist. > Ummmm...I have in my vinyl collection the LP titled "Turn Around Look At Me" and that song is included on the LP with writing credit to J. Capehart. The album was released in 1978 by Pickwick. Patty EON --part1_c1.2a9e2774.2b0fed6d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:38:02 -0800 From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" Subject: CO-WRITING This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C29223.FF6E13F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The bridge in Miami helped write Jive Talking. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C29223.FF6E13F0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:42:20 +0100 From: Ronnie Olsson Subject: Re: Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums 02-11-22 21.28, skrev Artsypooh@aol.com p=E5 Artsypooh@aol.com f=F6ljande: >> Blue Weaver told me he wrote The Way It Was instrumental and presented i= t to >> Barry. Then they worked on the lyrics, which is why Barry is also liste= d >> as a writer, basically for being just a lyricist. >>=20 >=20 > Ummmm...I have in my vinyl collection the LP titled "Turn Around Look At = Me" > and that song is included on the LP with writing credit to J. Capehart. = The > album was released in 1978 by Pickwick. That is a re-release of the 1967 Aussie compilation of singles and other tracks previously not available on LP. The songs were recorded in Australia at various points between 1963 to 1966. They were more or less forced to record covers when their singles bombed one after one, not their fault. Ronnie Olsson The Omnipotent King of Scania Wanted List - http://klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:01:25 +0100 From: Ronnie Olsson Subject: Re: CO-WRITING 02-11-22 21.38, skrev FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS p=E5 brian.nelson@fullspectrumrecords.com f=F6ljande: > The bridge in Miami helped write Jive Talking. Yep, but the Gibbs and their posse tore down the bridge to prevent it from demanding any royalties.=20 http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:18:10 EST From: Artsypooh@aol.com Subject: Re: Non-Gibb songs ARE on Bee Gees albums --part1_b8.31ede379.2b100722_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/22/02 2:42:44 PM Central Standard Time, the_nutty_swede@brothersgibb.com writes: > That is a re-release of the 1967 Aussie compilation of singles and other > tracks previously not available on LP. The songs were recorded in Australia > at various points between 1963 to 1966. They were more or less forced to > record covers when their singles bombed one after one, not their fault. > > Yes, the LP does say that the recordings were from Australia circa 1963; however, Turn Around Look At Me is the only song on this particular LP that isn't a Gibb composition. Patty EON --part1_b8.31ede379.2b100722_boundary-- ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [11/22/2002 18:01] ----------------------------------------------------