Words@brothersgibb.com message digest 08/11/2022 15:01 (#2022-1935)

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1Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Pleaserg5@mail.com
2Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Pleaserg5@mail.com
3Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Pleasemiddleear@gmail.com
4Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Pleasegrant.p.walters@gmail.com
5Nights On Broadwaycompoccia@aol.com
6Nights On Broadwaygrant.p.walters@gmail.com
7Nights On Broadwaygrant.p.walters@gmail.com
8Nights On Broadwaymarjlarue@gmail.com
9Nights On Broadwayyasdaz17@fastmail.fm
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:50:13 +0200 From: Terry Tucker <rg5@mail.com> Subject: Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Please
There ia a quote from Barry about Olivia Newton John passing away and also some pix of him with her. 
 
 I dont know how to bring it here if someone could help me out with this.. please do... :)   Terry
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:52:56 +0200 From: Terry Tucker <rg5@mail.com> Subject: Fw: Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Please
 
 
 
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Subject: Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Please
There ia a quote from Barry about Olivia Newton John passing away and also some pix of him with her. 
 
 I dont know how to bring it here if someone could help me out with this.. please do... :)   Terry
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:15:28 -0400 From: Edward Vlasov <middleear@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Please There's also a post on Facebook (the owner of Instagram) Nothing on MySpace yet.   Eddy     > There ia a quote from Barry about Olivia Newton John passing away and also some pix of him with her.  >   >  I dont know how to bring it here if someone could help me out with this.. please do... :)   Terry > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:04:17 -0400 From: Grant Walters <grant.p.walters@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Barry Quote about Olivia Newton John on Instagram.. a little Help Please As far as I know (please correct me if I'm wrong, Chris), you can't post photos via the list as they're not supported or permitted. So, a link to the post will have to suffice: https://www.instagram.com/p/ChFkAi1JPWs/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link. Grant On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 9:51 AM Terry Tucker wrote: > There ia a quote from Barry about Olivia Newton John passing away and also > some pix of him with her. > > I dont know how to bring it here if someone could help me out with this.. > please do... :) Terry > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:12:29 +0000 (UTC) From: compoccia@aol.com Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway >Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda happened, I guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main line falsetto on =80It Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - >the first take of that track was recorded in 1972. Robin’s high I couldn't see Robin being the vocal leader during the late 70's fever period. You can make an argument that his lead vocals could have been used a little more than they were, but those songs clearly fit Barry's voice. Largely his falsetto voice. Which yo Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main writer of the song would end up singing lead. He recently said that is why he sang lead on all those late 70 songs. By "default" was the word he used. The clear inference being that Barry was the ma >The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975=80 is a funny narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as =80Please Read Me” and “Let There Be Love” and >=E2Melody Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s a There are also some falsetto type ad libs at the end of "Mr. Natural" ('Come on baby"), which I think might be Robin???  But, I agree. The falsetto didn't exactly come out of nowhere. But, I doubt they, or Barry, was actually laying any groundwork to introduce it. It wouldn't surprise me if it was still a largely unexpected development.  Sal Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:23:13 -0400 From: Grant Walters <grant.p.walters@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway Yep - another good example, Sal. Those sound like Robin to me, too. I wasn't saying 'groundwork' from the perspective of him intentionally ramping up to 'Nights on Broadway' - I meant that all of their voices were perfectly capable of singing in falsetto the whole time. The 'Main Course' sessions have long been touted as the occasion on which Barry sang in falsetto for the first time, which isn't completely true. The first time someone nudged him to experiment fully with it? Sure. But, it's one of many yarns that have been spun over the years about them that are 'grain-of-salt' in nature :) G. On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM compoccia via Words wrote: > > >Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda happened, I > guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main line falsetto on =E2It > Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - >the first take of that track was recorded in > 1972. Robin’s high voice could be pretty impressive, as we all know. > Although, I don’t know if he really preferred to sing like that on a > >regular basis - Barry clearly fell in love with that extension of his > voice. Maybe that’s why it never went further. > > I couldn't see Robin being the vocal leader during the late 70's fever > period. You can make an argument that his lead vocals could have been used > a little more than they were, but those songs clearly fit Barry's voice. > Largely his falsetto voice. Which you can argue could have been used a > little less. LOL > > Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main writer of the > song would end up singing lead. He recently said that is why he sang lead > on all those late 70 songs. By "default" was the word he used. The clear > inference being that Barry was the main writer on most of those songs. > Which shouldn't be a big surprise for many of us here on the list. i assume > it is something we already sort of knew. > > >The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975=80 is a funny > narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as “Please Read Me” and > “Let There Be Love” and >“Melody Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s > a pretty well-formed Barry falsetto in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed the > soul out of Barry during the “Main Course” sessions, but >the groundwork > had been there for a long time. > > > There are also some falsetto type ad libs at the end of "Mr. Natural" > ('Come on baby"), which I think might be Robin??? > > But, I agree. The falsetto didn't exactly come out of nowhere. But, I > doubt they, or Barry, was actually laying any groundwork to introduce it. > It wouldn't surprise me if it was still a largely unexpected development. > > Sal > > -----Original Message----- > From: grant.p.walters@gmail.com > To: Words List Member > Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 9:45 pm > Subject: [Words] Nights On Broadway > > There is an early demo that exists from the point in the sessions when the > song still had the working title “All the Lights on Broadway.=80 They played > a short section of it during the Marshall documentary. I haven’t heard it > in its entirety, but it preceded any of the falsetto ad libs being > attempted. > > Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda happened, I > guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main line falsetto on =E2It > Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - the first take of that track was recorded in > 1972. Robin’s high voice could be pretty impressive, as we all know. > Although, I don’t know if he really preferred to sing like that on a > regular basis - Barry clearly fell in love with that extension of his > voice. Maybe that’s why it never went further. > > The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975=80 is a funny > narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as “Please Read Me” and > “Let There Be Love” and “Melody Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s > a pretty well-formed Barry falsetto in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed the > soul out of Barry during the “Main Course” sessions, but the groundwork had > been there for a long time. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:37 PM, cmathis@brothersgibb.com wrote: > >  > > I was listening to Nights on Broadway last week and I thought to myself, > since this is where the Bee Gees discovered the falsetto, is there any demo > material of the song without the falsetto? > > I also thought, what if it was Robin that took the initiative to attempt > the scream in Nights On Broadway instead of Barry, would that have changed > any of the Bee Gees music history or dynamics? > > I also thought that the burrito I just ate is not agreeing with me and my > wife and son will have to pay for my poor decision… > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:43:03 -0400 From: Grant Walters <grant.p.walters@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway "Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main writer of the song would end up singing lead. He recently said that is why he sang lead..." Maybe in some cases. After lots of conversations about this with various people for the books, I think there was a lot of smoke and mirrors when it came to their songwriting. I believe Robin contributed more than people probably realize - possibly even writing whole songs during the Helium Years that had been credited otherwise. I know that's cryptic because I can't/won't elaborate further, but I'm just saying I'm not sure Barry's theory is 100% :) Barry's falsetto was arguably the most recognizable and profitable voice of the second half of the 1970s. I think he sang lead because they knew it was solid gold (or platinum). I would've loved to hear Robin and Maurice sing more during that period myself - it's probably why I love "Children of the World" so much since they're all audible and contributing to the mix. On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM compoccia via Words wrote: > > >Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda happened, I > guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main line falsetto on =E2It > Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - >the first take of that track was recorded in > 1972. Robin’s high voice could be pretty impressive, as we all know. > Although, I don’t know if he really preferred to sing like that on a > >regular basis - Barry clearly fell in love with that extension of his > voice. Maybe that’s why it never went further. > > I couldn't see Robin being the vocal leader during the late 70's fever > period. You can make an argument that his lead vocals could have been used > a little more than they were, but those songs clearly fit Barry's voice. > Largely his falsetto voice. Which you can argue could have been used a > little less. LOL > > Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main writer of the > song would end up singing lead. He recently said that is why he sang lead > on all those late 70 songs. By "default" was the word he used. The clear > inference being that Barry was the main writer on most of those songs. > Which shouldn't be a big surprise for many of us here on the list. i assume > it is something we already sort of knew. > > >The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975=80 is a funny > narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as “Please Read Me” and > “Let There Be Love” and >“Melody Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s > a pretty well-formed Barry falsetto in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed the > soul out of Barry during the “Main Course” sessions, but >the groundwork > had been there for a long time. > > > There are also some falsetto type ad libs at the end of "Mr. Natural" > ('Come on baby"), which I think might be Robin??? > > But, I agree. The falsetto didn't exactly come out of nowhere. But, I > doubt they, or Barry, was actually laying any groundwork to introduce it. > It wouldn't surprise me if it was still a largely unexpected development. > > Sal > > -----Original Message----- > From: grant.p.walters@gmail.com > To: Words List Member > Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 9:45 pm > Subject: [Words] Nights On Broadway > > There is an early demo that exists from the point in the sessions when the > song still had the working title “All the Lights on Broadway.=80 They played > a short section of it during the Marshall documentary. I haven’t heard it > in its entirety, but it preceded any of the falsetto ad libs being > attempted. > > Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda happened, I > guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main line falsetto on =E2It > Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - the first take of that track was recorded in > 1972. Robin’s high voice could be pretty impressive, as we all know. > Although, I don’t know if he really preferred to sing like that on a > regular basis - Barry clearly fell in love with that extension of his > voice. Maybe that’s why it never went further. > > The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975=80 is a funny > narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as “Please Read Me” and > “Let There Be Love” and “Melody Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s > a pretty well-formed Barry falsetto in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed the > soul out of Barry during the “Main Course” sessions, but the groundwork had > been there for a long time. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:37 PM, cmathis@brothersgibb.com wrote: > >  > > I was listening to Nights on Broadway last week and I thought to myself, > since this is where the Bee Gees discovered the falsetto, is there any demo > material of the song without the falsetto? > > I also thought, what if it was Robin that took the initiative to attempt > the scream in Nights On Broadway instead of Barry, would that have changed > any of the Bee Gees music history or dynamics? > > I also thought that the burrito I just ate is not agreeing with me and my > wife and son will have to pay for my poor decision… > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message to Words-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:25:32 -0500 From: KittLarue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway > On Aug 11, 2022, at 10:55 AM, Grant Walters wrote: > > Maybe in some cases. After lots of conversations about this with various people for the books, I think there was a lot of smoke and mirrors when it came to their songwriting. I think smoke and mirrors is quite common in songwriting. Not everyone is credited that should be and some are credited that shouldn’t. Maybe that’s where they got the title of their track. 🙂 > I believe Robin contributed more than people probably realize - possibly even writing whole songs during the Helium Years that had been credited otherwise. I never had any doubt that Robin contributed more than what the majority of fans believed. But I do believe that Barry was the most consist commercial writer, and definitely producer. Added up— songwriting, producing, Albhy and Karl — it was The Barry Robin was a talented writer and he has proven this. Rob could and did write decent pop tracks, but I think he worked better with a collaborator— Mo, Barry, Pete. When it came to Rob’s music— his off the wall underground dirge-like songs — no, he d > Barry's falsetto was arguably the most recognizable and profitable voice of the second half of the 1970s. I think he sang lead because they knew it was solid gold (or platinum). I would've loved to hear Robin and Maurice sing more during that period mys Barry’s falsetto, although not my favorite falsetto, ruled the late 70s. For Main Course, Fever and a few tracks on SHF, Barry’s falsetto took them out of their “Blue-eyed soul” category into R&B/Soul, at least in the Black community. They were in I would have liked to have heard more of the twins. The brothers need for fame and hits and a side of ego boosting, probably helped to promote the use of an over abundance falsetto. It must be stated, that falsetto took them straight to the bank, but I’ Kitt-= Back to top
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:33:17 -0700 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway That is interesting.  It is nice to hear that Robin might have been more involved in those years as both he and Mo both seem to be portrayed as almost superfluous.  I too wish that the Fever sessions and Spirits were more balanced, imo, that they had more Mo and Robin voices.  That is partly why I love Living Eyes so much--so much more even with everyone getting a turn and with such absolutely wonderful, imo, Robin songs and the best Mo song, again imo.  Yasmine On 2022-08-11 8:43 a.m., Grant Walters wrote: > > "Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main writer of > the song would end up singing lead. He recently said that is why he > sang lead..." > > Maybe in some cases. After lots of conversations about this with > various people for the books, I think there was a lot of smoke and > mirrors when it came to their songwriting. I believe Robin contributed > more than people probably realize - possibly even writing whole songs > during the Helium Years that had been credited otherwise. I know > that's cryptic because I can't/won't elaborate further, but I'm just > saying I'm not sure Barry's theory is 100% :) Barry's falsetto was > arguably the most recognizable and profitable voice of the second half > of the 1970s. I think he sang lead because they knew it was solid gold > (or platinum). I would've loved to hear Robin and Maurice sing more > during that period myself - it's probably why I love "Children of the > World" so much since they're all audible and contributing to the mix. > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM compoccia via Words > wrote: > > > >Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda > happened, I guess. After all, Robin technically had the first > main line falsetto on “It Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - >the > first take of that track was recorded in 1972. Robin’s high > voice could be pretty impressive, as we all know. Although, I > don’t know if he really preferred to sing like that on a > >regular basis - Barry clearly fell in love with that > extension of his voice. Maybe that’s why it never went further. > > I couldn't see Robin being the vocal leader during the late > 70's fever period. You can make an argument that his lead > vocals could have been used a little more than they were, but > those songs clearly fit Barry's voice. Largely his falsetto > voice. Which you can argue could have been used a little less. LOL > > Also, lately Barry seems to be reiterating that the main > writer of the song would end up singing lead. He recently said > that is why he sang lead on all those late 70 songs. By > "default" was the word he used. The clear inference being that > Barry was the main writer on most of those songs. Which > shouldn't be a big surprise for many of us here on the list. i > assume it is something we already sort of knew. > > >The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until > 1975” is a funny narrative. There were falsetto voices as far > back as “Please Read Me” and “Let There Be Love” and >“Melody > Fair”. Then “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s a pretty > well-formed Barry falsetto in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed > the soul out of Barry during the “Main Course” sessions, but > >the groundwork had been there for a long time. > > > There are also some falsetto type ad libs at the end of "Mr. > Natural" ('Come on baby"), which I think might be Robin??? > > But, I agree. The falsetto didn't exactly come out of nowhere. > But, I doubt they, or Barry, was actually laying any groundwork to > introduce it. It wouldn't surprise me if it was still a largely > unexpected development. > > Sal > > -----Original Message----- > From: grant.p.walters@gmail.com > To: Words List Member > Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 9:45 pm > Subject: [Words] Nights On Broadway > > There is an early demo that exists from the point in the sessions > when the song still had the working title “All the Lights on > Broadway.” They played a short section of it during the Marshall > documentary. I haven’t heard it in its entirety, but it preceded > any of the falsetto ad libs being attempted. > > Robin as the vocal leader of the band in the late 70s? Coulda > happened, I guess. After all, Robin technically had the first main > line falsetto on “It Doesn’t Matter Much To Me” - the first take > of that track was recorded in 1972. Robin’s high voice could be > pretty impressive, as we all know. Although, I don’t know if he > really preferred to sing like that on a regular basis - Barry > clearly fell in love with that extension of his voice. Maybe > that’s why it never went further. > > The whole “we never knew we could sing In falsetto until 1975” is > a funny narrative. There were falsetto voices as far back as > “Please Read Me” and “Let There Be Love” and “Melody Fair”. Then > “Dogs”; on the bridges, that’s a pretty well-formed Barry falsetto > in the mix. Arif certainly coaxed the soul out of Barry during the > “Main Course” sessions, but the groundwork had been there for a > long time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:37 PM, cmathis@brothersgibb.com wrote: >> >>  > I was listening to Nights on Broadway last week and I thought to > myself, since this is where the Bee Gees discovered the falsetto, > is there any demo material of the song without the falsetto? > I also thought, what if it was Robin that took the initiative to > attempt the scream in Nights On Broadway instead of Barry, would > that have changed any of the Bee Gees music history or dynamics? > I also thought that the burrito I just ate is not agreeing with me > and my wife and son will have to pay for my poor decision… > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message toWords-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To unsubscribe, send a message toWords-unsubscribe@brothersgibb.com > Back to top
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