words@brothersgibb.com message digest 04/27/2013 18:01 (#2013-4155)

8 messages included in this issue
1This is all down to the wiferolsson@brothersgibb.com
2This is all down to the wifediannaj1962@yahoo.com
3Interview with David N. Meyersyasdaz17@fastmail.fm
4Interview with David N. Meyersyasdaz17@fastmail.fm
5This is all down to my wife...yasdaz17@fastmail.fm
6This is all down to my wife...tracikreider@me.com
7A Breed Apart DVDrolsson@brothersgibb.com
8Steve Wright Interview with Barrymargaretford6@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:10:35 -0400 From: "Ronnie Olsson" <rolsson@brothersgibb.com> Subject: Re: This is all down to the wife Notice the smiley below? A joke, meaning that what made Barry go on tour was Linda's frequent trips to the casino. Besides, what are you doing looking in Barry's wallet anyway....? /Ronnie -----Original Message----- From: diannaj1962 To: "words List Member" Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:11:07 -0500 Subject: [words] This is all down to the wife > I Owe You debts that she aquired and hasnt paid back which I dont believe she ever had. Barry has > plenty of money so those should have never been an issue. So I dont know what is being to > referred to really. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Gabriella Pitucco > Date: 04/27/2013 7:27 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: words List Member > Subject: [words] This is all down to the wife > > What does iou means? > > Ronnie Olsson ha scritto: > > >Dick probably was first but Linda pushed it when all the IOUs from her visits to the casino > began > >piling up. > > > >;-) > > > >/Ronnie > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Julian Glass > >To: "words List Member"  > >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:56:11 +0100 > >Subject: [words] This is all down to the wife > > > >> No reason why both couldn't have said indepentlt > >> > >> Julian > >> > >> > >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > >> http://www.brothersgibb.com > >> > >> To change any of your list options, > >> please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > >http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > >To change any of your list options, > >please go to website listed above. > > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: DIANNA JOHNSON <diannaj1962@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: This is all down to the wife ROFL =A0 =A0 ________________________________ From: Ronnie Olsson To: words List Member =20 Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:10 AM Subject: [words] This is all down to the wife Notice the smiley below? A joke, meaning that what made Barry go on tour was Linda's frequent trips to the casino.=20 Besides, what are you doing looking in Barry's wallet anyway....? /Ronnie Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:32:27 -0700 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Interview with David N. Meyers Thanks so much for this interview. I am looking forward to the book. Certainly we know, because it has been talked about almost endlessly here, about Barry as leader (father figure if you like) and the issues that arose from it. The point he makes about the lyrics was really interesting to me. Their lyrics were so vague as to be accessible to everyone; there was no specificity so it is almost as if the listener can write his/her own meaning into the song. Ahh, so that is why there is no sense to the lyrics, lol! It is too bad that they never were able to break out of that "make money, be successful" mode to explore more of their art. I can only imagine what songs, what quality of songs, might have come out of their artistic expression. I hope it is not delayed any longer and actually comes out in July (it was supposed to come out in November, then March, if I remember correctly). Finally, I can't help it, I can almost picture Meyers being cheeky and going to one of the upcoming concerts, say, and introducing himself and can almost picture Barry's back going up immediately and the atmosphere in the room turning distinctly frosty. Meyers did mention that the Gibbs have never really talked in depth about themselves, certainly not to a biographer and that others around them have obeyed the no talk edict so he considers his book to be the biography, not an unauthorized biography (which of course it is). Well yes, Da Book was more descriptive than interpretive, if I can put it that way, but Meyers has a lot to live up to if that is his advanced billing! Yasmine On 25/04/2013 4:05 PM, Kevin McManus wrote: > I stumbled across an interview with David N. Meyers, author of the > forthcoming (July) biography of the Bee Gees, that's available via a > podcast dated April 16, 2013. It can be found at: > > http://www.podcasts.com/david_richo_keyword_feed/episode/exalted-music-troubled-lives-author-david-n.-meyer-apr-162013 > > You have to “subscribe for free” to be able to listen, so I guess I’ll be > receiving emails from the podcaster for the rest of my life. > > The interview is 30 minutes long, with the first half devoted to Gram > Parsons; the focus shifts to the Bee Gees around the 16:30 mark. Be > forewarned that the interviewer is a major windbag, so you might come away > feeling you’ve heard more of what he has to say than you do Meyers. > > *Spoiler alert:* following are a few notes about what Meyers did manage to > say, so stop reading if you want to get a sense of his argument by > listening to the podcast or reading the book! > > As I hear the interview, Meyers emphasized two main points: > > First, he says that, from an early age, Barry assumed the role of a father > figure -- not because Hugh was a drunkard or addict or anything like that > (as opposed to Parsons’ dysfunctional family background), but because Hugh > just wasn’t very successful. He claims that Barry was as much an “absolute > father figure” at age 50 as he was at age 13. Meyers describes the break-up > as the twins’ rebellion at being forced to remain in an adolescent role. > > Second, Meyers notes that, whereas Parsons came from wealth and was > interested first and foremost in self-expression (with a desire for success > coming in somewhere behind that), the Gibbs viewed themselves as pop > writers from the start, cloaking their emotions in vague lyrics (he cites > this vagueness as an important factor in the universality of their songs). He > sees their drive for achieving success as being rooted in the family’s > poverty, saying that they “didn’t have time to develop self-expression; > they had to eat.” > > When asked what surprised him as he researched the biography, Meyers > mentioned two things: the discovery that the Bee Gees are part of the > “ether,” to the extent that anybody in the world can hum at least one of > their songs, even if they smirk while they’re doing it; and his learning > how interesting the 3 Gibbs were as individual human beings, yet also how > powerful the family dynamic was. > > I don’t know if any of what Meyers had to say in the interview constitutes > a revolutionary insight, but it’s interesting to hear from someone who has > thought about them and formed a coherent point of view. I certainly agree > with him about their lyrics -- when, for example, he says he doesn’t know > what the lyrics of “Massachusetts” mean, and he doubts the Gibbs did, > either. > > Looking back over the length of this post, it occurs to me that perhaps the > interviewer isn’t the only windbag … > > Kevin > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:33:10 -0700 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Interview with David N. Meyers I just pulled up the podcast link and pressed play; it worked for me without having to sign in. Yasmine On 26/04/2013 4:39 AM, Ronnie Olsson wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin McManus >> I stumbled across an interview with David N. Meyers, author of the >> forthcoming (July) biography of the Bee Gees, that's available via a >> podcast dated April 16, 2013. It can be found at: >> >> http://www.podcasts.com/david_richo_keyword_feed/episode/exalted-music-troubled-lives-author-davi >> d-n.-meyer-apr-162013 >> >> You have to “subscribe for free” to be able to listen, so I guess I’ll be >> receiving emails from the podcaster for the rest of my life. > One can dodge the subscribe part by looking up the episode on iTunes. > > /Ronnie > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:04:59 -0700 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: This is all down to my wife... Okay, me being me, I see revision going on, or at least places where his brothers might have disagreed with him. First, okay, either Dick, Linda or both told Barry to get off his backside. First, why did it take them 10 years to say this and second, why did he not do this when Robin told him the same thing in essence by asking him to work with him? Then, he mentions that Robin has been ill for longer than a couple of years. Is that Barry's opinion or did he know/find out that Robin was sick for longer than even we knew? I believe there were a couple of members who said that they saw pictures of Robin and felt he had been ill for a long time. Interesting as well that no one in England, including Robin himself (if he could get a hold of him) could give Barry a prognosis and he had to ask his own doctor for his opinion. That just seems so sad to me. I could not help rolling over with laughter at his assertion that now was the time for him to do what he wants to do, not what others want him to do. Uhh, well, I do believe this is a man who, for the most part, did things "his way" and not what others wanted him to do. The fact that he thinks this seems to me to point to how badly hemmed in he felt by having to at least consider what the twins might want and how unexamined his life is, by himself. He was worried about the twins, they did not worry about him; he was outside the twin loop. Well, anyone with any psychological insight would point out that if he worried so much, they did not have to; he was doing the worrying for all of them. I can just see the twins point out that they felt left out of the "Bee Gee loop" as Barry took over a lot of their professional lives. However, I have been interested in the dynamic of how an older brother and then twins played out. The twins had always indicated that they felt like they were all in the Bee Gees together and that, in essence, there was no twin dynamic but more like a triplet dynamic. Obviously Barry ended up not feeling that way. I have always waited for him to address this because I thought he might feel excluded, at least a bit, because they were twins but he has only ever mentioned it once, that I know of, and that was on the Still Waters' interview promo cd. Intriguing that the twins did not seem to feel a special bond that excluded Barry but that he felt they did have such a bond. I am not sure what to make of Barry's comment that he was telling the twins to relax, that they had made it, but that they, or at least Robin, always wanted one more hit. Certainly Barry made a big show of saying that he was hungry to succeed still, that that hunger drove him/them on to keep producing music in the promotion of TIWICI but maybe that was just for the media and public at large and not the truth? I wonder if Robin's hunger might have come from feeling that Barry was the one that got all the hits (especially after 1969) and that he kept wanting hits because he wanted one of "his" songs to be successful? As usual, an interesting, insightful interview, even if the meaning was reading in between the lines. And again, it is natural for at least a bit of a revisionist dynamic to come into play since he is the only one left standing to bear witness, but I wish Barry was a bit more self-aware and could see where he might be revisioning and rephrase some things. Yasmine On 26/04/2013 9:19 PM, Chris Mathis wrote: > Short URL: > > > > http://alturl.com/smyk7 > > > > In an exclusive interview with The Sun at his stunning Miami mansion, Barry > said: "This is all down to my wife. She told me to get off my backside and > stop going along with the whole idea that everything was finished for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:02:34 -0400 From: Traci Kreider <tracikreider@me.com> Subject: Re: This is all down to my wife... I just think things are being taken out of context with things Barry Gibb has said. I felt when he said he can now find himself, it meant he can do totally different things, yes, but he has to find his own way now. He's out there on his own literally, and On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > Okay, me being me, I see revision going on, or at least places where his brothers might have disagreed with him. First, okay, either Dick, Linda or both told Barry to get off his backside. First, why did it take them 10 years to say this and second, w >=20 > Then, he mentions that Robin has been ill for longer than a couple of years. Is that Barry's opinion or did he know/find out that Robin was sick for longer than even we knew? I believe there were a couple of members who said that they saw pictures of >=20 > I could not help rolling over with laughter at his assertion that now was the time for him to do what he wants to do, not what others want him to do. Uhh, well, I do believe this is a man who, for the most part, did things "his way" and not what others >=20 > He was worried about the twins, they did not worry about him; he was outside the twin loop. Well, anyone with any psychological insight would point out that if he worried so much, they did not have to; he was doing the worrying for all of them. I can >=20 > I am not sure what to make of Barry's comment that he was telling the twins to relax, that they had made it, but that they, or at least Robin, always wanted one more hit. Certainly Barry made a big show of saying that he was hungry to succeed still, th >=20 > As usual, an interesting, insightful interview, even if the meaning was reading in between the lines. And again, it is natural for at least a bit of a revisionist dynamic to come into play since he is the only one left standing to bear witness, but I w >=20 >=20 > On 26/04/2013 9:19 PM, Chris Mathis wrote: >> Short URL: >>=20 >> =20 >> http://alturl.com/smyk7 >>=20 >> =20 >> In an exclusive interview with The Sun at his stunning Miami mansion, Barry >> said: "This is all down to my wife. She told me to get off my backside and >> stop going along with the whole idea that everything was finished for me. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>=20 >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. >=20 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:16:28 -0400 From: "Ronnie Olsson" <rolsson@brothersgibb.com> Subject: A Breed Apart DVD Koch Media in Germany issued "A Breed Apart" on DVD (PAL format, Region 2) earlier this month. The film stars Rutger Hauer, Kathleen Turner and Powers Boothe with appearances by Donald Pleasence and Brion James. As you all may or may not know, Maurice Gibb composed the score for this film. http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00BEREANQ/ Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:58:20 +0100 From: Margaret Ford <margaretford6@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Steve Wright Interview with Barry also on you tube On Friday, 26 April 2013, Genny wrote: > Steve Wright BBC Radio interview with Barry Gibb. Barry segment starts at 2:30:00 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01rz4wv/ > > Genny > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. End words@brothersgibb.com message digest 04/27/2013 18:01 (#2013-4155)