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1AUDIO DOCUMENTARY ON BEE GEES SPIRITS HAVING FLOWN TOURmarjlarue@gmail.com
2Barry v Robin and Mauricemarjlarue@gmail.com
3Barry v Robin and Mauricetracikreider@me.com
4Barry v Robin and Mauricemarjlarue@gmail.com
5Barry v Robin and Mauricetracikreider@me.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:10:50 -0600 From: kitty larue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: AUDIO DOCUMENTARY ON BEE GEES SPIRITS HAVING FLOWN TOUR Thanks Joel. Kitt- On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Joel Ashby wrote: > This audio documentary was just posted on YouTube today > from a radio series called Icon. The host interviews one of the chief > sound engineers, Tim Nesbitt, from the Bee Gees' Spirits Having Flown Tour > in 1979-80. Nesbitt has lots of great things to say about The Brothers > Gibb, except the > singing abilities of Maurice. So, Maurice fans, be forewarned, there may > be a couple of spots where your blood might boil a little ! :) > > The program is almost 55 > minutes long, so you may want to save this post for when you have time to > listen to the broadcast. > > > Joel > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZeTb-Zmo58 > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:12:34 -0600 From: kitty larue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Barry v Robin and Maurice 'I find it interesting though to note that it is clear what Barry's "side" of the issues were but I never seemed to get a corresponding sense of any of the twins' grievances with Barry (except maybe being a bit of an overbearing older brother).' I agree. Kitt- On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > Well, this is precisely the problem with quarrels, especially family > quarrels, especially family business quarrels. There are always two sides, > usually working at cross purposes. I suspect that ever since 1969, Barry > and Robin were not able to get on the same wavelength and communication > "got lost in translation". I find it interesting though to note that it is > clear what Barry's "side" of the issues were but I never seemed to get a > corresponding sense of any of the twins' grievances with Barry (except > maybe being a bit of an overbearing older brother). Well, obviously water > under the bridge now but it makes me marvel all the more that they were > able to hold it all together and produce music. I just feel sorry that B&R > in particular were not able to sit down and iron out their differences but > I also know from my own experiences with my siblings and other family that > family issues are the most difficult to sit down and talk about honestly. > Yasmine > > On 20/06/2013 12:56 PM, Kate wrote: > >> Yes. I have a friend who used to love Barry (she still does, but >> not like in the days past, not with the fervor of a teenager). >> We would go to all the concerts together, and while I watched >> Robin's every move onstage, she would watch Barry's every move >> onstage. And she used to say exactly the same thing as Joe. What >> a burden the twins were to Barry, especially Robin. How Barry >> was always looking out for them, looking after them. >> >> Robin would oversleep and miss an interview. Robin would not >> turn up at the sound check. Robin would be rude to fans (maybe >> it was his shyness, but Robin in his younger days sometimes did >> not handle the attention well). When Robin ignored fans and >> walked away, Barry would stay behind with his radiant smile, >> telling jokes to make it look all right. "Did Robin look tired >> and sulky? Oh, no. That's the way he looks, love." >> >> At gatherings, Barry would be collecting tea cups that Robin >> left lying around. Once my friend saw Barry scolding Maurice >> because he had thrown a bunch of flowers from the stage at the >> fans below. The flowers had been given to Maurice by a fan. How >> she would have been shocked when her flowers had been >> thrown away... Barry was scolding Maurice for the pain he could >> have caused her. >> >> But at the end of the day, she said that she always felt that >> Barry loved his brothers very, very much. >> >> May he find strength and solace in all his future endeavors. >> >> Best, >> >> Kate >> >> >> Julian Glass wrote: >> >> Joe, >>> >>> You completely nailed it. Such an incisive and perceptive post. >>> >>> Julian >>> >> >> >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >> >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. >> >> > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:38:49 -0400 From: Traci Kreider <tracikreider@me.com> Subject: Re: Barry v Robin and Maurice I believe that Barry's and Robins were mainly, at least with the first breakup, were interferences from outside people such as friends and business people saying you guys don't need each other.=20 I believe this to be the case later in their lives as Barry , in the article I read the other day, wanted to take more control of his money. There is no problem with that and I don't think it would have become a big problem for the twins, because they dec They did do some shows together and maybe if Robin would have payed attention to his health there would have been a concert tour with the two. But, everyone wants to blame Barry but with Robin touring for an album Barry had no idea he did, instead of gett Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, kitty larue wrote: > 'I find it interesting though to note that it is clear what Barry's "side" > of the issues were but I never seemed to get a corresponding sense of any > of the twins' grievances with Barry (except maybe being a bit of an > overbearing older brother).' >=20 > I agree. >=20 > Kitt- >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: >=20 >> Well, this is precisely the problem with quarrels, especially family >> quarrels, especially family business quarrels. There are always two sides, >> usually working at cross purposes. I suspect that ever since 1969, Barry >> and Robin were not able to get on the same wavelength and communication >> "got lost in translation". I find it interesting though to note that it is >> clear what Barry's "side" of the issues were but I never seemed to get a >> corresponding sense of any of the twins' grievances with Barry (except >> maybe being a bit of an overbearing older brother). Well, obviously water >> under the bridge now but it makes me marvel all the more that they were >> able to hold it all together and produce music. I just feel sorry that B&R >> in particular were not able to sit down and iron out their differences but >> I also know from my own experiences with my siblings and other family that >> family issues are the most difficult to sit down and talk about honestly. >> Yasmine >>=20 >> On 20/06/2013 12:56 PM, Kate wrote: >>=20 >>> Yes. I have a friend who used to love Barry (she still does, but >>> not like in the days past, not with the fervor of a teenager). >>> We would go to all the concerts together, and while I watched >>> Robin's every move onstage, she would watch Barry's every move >>> onstage. And she used to say exactly the same thing as Joe. What >>> a burden the twins were to Barry, especially Robin. How Barry >>> was always looking out for them, looking after them. >>>=20 >>> Robin would oversleep and miss an interview. Robin would not >>> turn up at the sound check. Robin would be rude to fans (maybe >>> it was his shyness, but Robin in his younger days sometimes did >>> not handle the attention well). When Robin ignored fans and >>> walked away, Barry would stay behind with his radiant smile, >>> telling jokes to make it look all right. "Did Robin look tired >>> and sulky? Oh, no. That's the way he looks, love." >>>=20 >>> At gatherings, Barry would be collecting tea cups that Robin >>> left lying around. Once my friend saw Barry scolding Maurice >>> because he had thrown a bunch of flowers from the stage at the >>> fans below. The flowers had been given to Maurice by a fan. How >>> she would have been shocked when her flowers had been >>> thrown away... Barry was scolding Maurice for the pain he could >>> have caused her. >>>=20 >>> But at the end of the day, she said that she always felt that >>> Barry loved his brothers very, very much. >>>=20 >>> May he find strength and solace in all his future endeavors. >>>=20 >>> Best, >>>=20 >>> Kate >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Julian Glass wrote: >>>=20 >>> Joe, >>>>=20 >>>> You completely nailed it. Such an incisive and perceptive post. >>>>=20 >>>> Julian >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >>> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>>=20 >>> To change any of your list options, >>> please go to website listed above. >>=20 >>=20 >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com=20 >=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:59:24 -0600 From: kitty larue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Barry v Robin and Maurice I was simply agreeing to a comment that Yasmine made. I am NOT and have NEVER blamed Barry for not touring with Robin. I think I've stated that in another post. And who knows for sure anything about Robins's health? That would be speculating, and you know where that gets me. I have other thoughts, but another day as I may be at my post limitation for the week. Lol. And no Traci, your post was not too long, it was quite interesting. Kitt- On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Traci Kreider wrote: > I believe that Barry's and Robins were mainly, at least with the first > breakup, were interferences from outside people such as friends and > business people saying you guys don't need each other. > > I believe this to be the case later in their lives as Barry , in the > article I read the other day, wanted to take more control of his money. > There is no problem with that and I don't think it would have become a big > problem for the twins, because they decided to stay with the same reps. > But, when Maurice past away, there was not one person who could bring Barry > and Robin back together and the separation wasn't about money anymore it > was having to deal with losing Maurice and the end of the BeeGees. > > They did do some shows together and maybe if Robin would have payed > attention to his health there would have been a concert tour with the two. > But, everyone wants to blame Barry but with Robin touring for an album > Barry had no idea he did, instead of getting the medical attention he > needed, again something Barry had no idea of until he went into the > hospital with pneumonia. How is it Barry's doing to keep things going when > he had no idea where Robins head was. I don't even think Robin knew > himself. So there should be no blame. When my mom had cancer those drugs > made her do thing or not do things. And by the way Robin was and has always > been my favorite singer in the group. Sorry so lo g just had to get that > all out > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, kitty larue wrote: > > > 'I find it interesting though to note that it is clear what Barry's > "side" > > of the issues were but I never seemed to get a corresponding sense of any > > of the twins' grievances with Barry (except maybe being a bit of an > > overbearing older brother).' > > > > I agree. > > > > Kitt- > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali >wrote: > > > >> Well, this is precisely the problem with quarrels, especially family > >> quarrels, especially family business quarrels. There are always two > sides, > >> usually working at cross purposes. I suspect that ever since 1969, > Barry > >> and Robin were not able to get on the same wavelength and communication > >> "got lost in translation". I find it interesting though to note that > it is > >> clear what Barry's "side" of the issues were but I never seemed to get a > >> corresponding sense of any of the twins' grievances with Barry (except > >> maybe being a bit of an overbearing older brother). Well, obviously > water > >> under the bridge now but it makes me marvel all the more that they were > >> able to hold it all together and produce music. I just feel sorry that > B&R > >> in particular were not able to sit down and iron out their differences > but > >> I also know from my own experiences with my siblings and other family > that > >> family issues are the most difficult to sit down and talk about > honestly. > >> Yasmine > >> > >> On 20/06/2013 12:56 PM, Kate wrote: > >> > >>> Yes. I have a friend who used to love Barry (she still does, but > >>> not like in the days past, not with the fervor of a teenager). > >>> We would go to all the concerts together, and while I watched > >>> Robin's every move onstage, she would watch Barry's every move > >>> onstage. And she used to say exactly the same thing as Joe. What > >>> a burden the twins were to Barry, especially Robin. How Barry > >>> was always looking out for them, looking after them. > >>> > >>> Robin would oversleep and miss an interview. Robin would not > >>> turn up at the sound check. Robin would be rude to fans (maybe > >>> it was his shyness, but Robin in his younger days sometimes did > >>> not handle the attention well). When Robin ignored fans and > >>> walked away, Barry would stay behind with his radiant smile, > >>> telling jokes to make it look all right. "Did Robin look tired > >>> and sulky? Oh, no. That's the way he looks, love." > >>> > >>> At gatherings, Barry would be collecting tea cups that Robin > >>> left lying around. Once my friend saw Barry scolding Maurice > >>> because he had thrown a bunch of flowers from the stage at the > >>> fans below. The flowers had been given to Maurice by a fan. How > >>> she would have been shocked when her flowers had been > >>> thrown away... Barry was scolding Maurice for the pain he could > >>> have caused her. > >>> > >>> But at the end of the day, she said that she always felt that > >>> Barry loved his brothers very, very much. > >>> > >>> May he find strength and solace in all his future endeavors. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Kate > >>> > >>> > >>> Julian Glass wrote: > >>> > >>> Joe, > >>>> > >>>> You completely nailed it. Such an incisive and perceptive post. > >>>> > >>>> Julian > >>> > >>> > >>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > >>> http://www.brothersgibb.com > >>> > >>> To change any of your list options, > >>> please go to website listed above. > >> > >> > >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > >> http://www.brothersgibb.com > >> To change any of your list options, > >> please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:26:50 -0400 From: Traci Kreider <tracikreider@me.com> Subject: Re: Barry v Robin and Maurice Yeah I knew what younweremsaying. On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:59 AM, kitty larue wrote: > I was simply agreeing to a comment that Yasmine made. I am NOT and have > NEVER blamed Barry for not touring with Robin. I think I've stated that in > another post. And who knows for sure anything about Robins's health? That > would be speculating, and you know where that gets me. I have other > thoughts, but another day as I may be at my post limitation for the week. > Lol. And no Traci, your post was not too long, it was quite interesting. >=20 > Kitt- >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Traci Kreider wrote: >=20 >> I believe that Barry's and Robins were mainly, at least with the first >> breakup, were interferences from outside people such as friends and >> business people saying you guys don't need each other. >>=20 >> I believe this to be the case later in their lives as Barry , in the >> article I read the other day, wanted to take more control of his money. >> There is no problem with that and I don't think it would have become a big >> problem for the twins, because they decided to stay with the same reps. >> But, when Maurice past away, there was not one person who could bring Barry >> and Robin back together and the separation wasn't about money anymore it >> was having to deal with losing Maurice and the end of the BeeGees. >>=20 >> They did do some shows together and maybe if Robin would have payed >> attention to his health there would have been a concert tour with the two. >> But, everyone wants to blame Barry but with Robin touring for an album >> Barry had no idea he did, instead of getting the medical attention he >> needed, again something Barry had no idea of until he went into the >> hospital with pneumonia. How is it Barry's doing to keep things going when >> he had no idea where Robins head was. I don't even think Robin knew >> himself. So there should be no blame. When my mom had cancer those drugs >> made her do thing or not do things. And by the way Robin was and has always >> been my favorite singer in the group. Sorry so lo g just had to get that >> all out >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, kitty larue wrote: >>=20 >>> 'I find it interesting though to note that it is clear what Barry's >> "side" >>> of the issues were but I never seemed to get a corresponding sense of any >>> of the twins' grievances with Barry (except maybe being a bit of an >>> overbearing older brother).' >>>=20 >>> I agree. >>>=20 >>> Kitt- >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali >> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Well, this is precisely the problem with quarrels, especially family >>>> quarrels, especially family business quarrels. There are always two >> sides, >>>> usually working at cross purposes. I suspect that ever since 1969, >> Barry >>>> and Robin were not able to get on the same wavelength and communication >>>> "got lost in translation". I find it interesting though to note that >> it is >>>> clear what Barry's "side" of the issues were but I never seemed to get a >>>> corresponding sense of any of the twins' grievances with Barry (except >>>> maybe being a bit of an overbearing older brother). Well, obviously >> water >>>> under the bridge now but it makes me marvel all the more that they were >>>> able to hold it all together and produce music. I just feel sorry that >> B&R >>>> in particular were not able to sit down and iron out their differences >> but >>>> I also know from my own experiences with my siblings and other family >> that >>>> family issues are the most difficult to sit down and talk about >> honestly. >>>> Yasmine >>>>=20 >>>> On 20/06/2013 12:56 PM, Kate wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Yes. I have a friend who used to love Barry (she still does, but >>>>> not like in the days past, not with the fervor of a teenager). >>>>> We would go to all the concerts together, and while I watched >>>>> Robin's every move onstage, she would watch Barry's every move >>>>> onstage. And she used to say exactly the same thing as Joe. What >>>>> a burden the twins were to Barry, especially Robin. How Barry >>>>> was always looking out for them, looking after them. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Robin would oversleep and miss an interview. Robin would not >>>>> turn up at the sound check. Robin would be rude to fans (maybe >>>>> it was his shyness, but Robin in his younger days sometimes did >>>>> not handle the attention well). When Robin ignored fans and >>>>> walked away, Barry would stay behind with his radiant smile, >>>>> telling jokes to make it look all right. "Did Robin look tired >>>>> and sulky? Oh, no. That's the way he looks, love." >>>>>=20 >>>>> At gatherings, Barry would be collecting tea cups that Robin >>>>> left lying around. Once my friend saw Barry scolding Maurice >>>>> because he had thrown a bunch of flowers from the stage at the >>>>> fans below. The flowers had been given to Maurice by a fan. How >>>>> she would have been shocked when her flowers had been >>>>> thrown away... Barry was scolding Maurice for the pain he could >>>>> have caused her. >>>>>=20 >>>>> But at the end of the day, she said that she always felt that >>>>> Barry loved his brothers very, very much. >>>>>=20 >>>>> May he find strength and solace in all his future endeavors. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Best, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Kate >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Julian Glass wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Joe, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> You completely nailed it. Such an incisive and perceptive post. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Julian >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >>>>> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> To change any of your list options, >>>>> please go to website listed above. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >>>> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>>> To change any of your list options, >>>> please go to website listed above. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >>> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>>=20 >>> To change any of your list options, >>> please go to website listed above. >>=20 >>=20 >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >>=20 >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com=20 >=20 > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. 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