(#2002-2694) - Topics This Issue: 1) Party at the Palace 2) Party at the Palace 3) Phil Collins 4) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) 5) Party at the Palace 6) Party at the Palace 7) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) 8) Phil Collins 9) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) 10) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) 11) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) 12) Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:07:20 EDT From: BACG143@aol.com Subject: Re: Party at the Palace --part1_a4.26cf3ccb.2a2deb58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 04/06/02 01:14:59 GMT Daylight Time, bgfan@sympatico.ca writes: > Well I see Uncle Phil is backing Queen . > Talking of Queen - did ya see Brian May on the roof of Buck House??? WOWOWOW!!! Totally spectacular!!! Think I`m in love :o) :o) :o) As far as I know...the Bros were asked, but declined the invite. Definately a mistake. Jean (Off to hunt out all her old Queen CD`s) --part1_a4.26cf3ccb.2a2deb58_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:10:00 +0200 From: "Toni Quintana" Subject: RE: Party at the Palace > As far as I know...the Bros were asked, but declined the invite. Definately > a mistake. > > Jean Well, if they did it because of the recording of the new album I'll accept many more mistakes like this. Toni. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:32:39 +0100 From: "Julian Glass" Subject: Phil Collins Douglas, yes you are right I meant Steve Rucker. I think being a top session musician means that you can read a score technically well and quickly to minimize stidio time. I don't think it necessarily makes you better at interpreting it. Let's face it Genesis were a fine band and much of it doen to Collins work. His drums on You Win Again is in my view unsurpassed > > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:34:50 -0500 > From: "Douglas E Wilson" > Subject: RE: Phil Collins > > Julian, opining on Phil Collins, and then expanding it a bit more: > > His arrangement for Message and particular You Win Again were better than > the records. It shows what happens when you use top musicians, which I don't > think has been the case with the boys since Karlbhy ended. However Ben > Stivers is the best regular drummer since Dennis Bryan > > (1) He may have added his own touches on drums to the songs, but that hardly > constitutes his rearranging the songs. > > (2) Except for the "Living Eyes" sessions, they didn't use top musicians > with Karlbhy, at least for their own projects. They used their own band > (hardly in demand session musicians) with an occasional augmentation such as > the Chicago horns, Stephen Stills, or Herbie Mann. The outside projects is > where they favored top session players such as Steve Gadd and the late, > great Richard Tee. > > (3) Ben Stivers is / was their keyboardist. You're probably thinking of > Steve Rucker on drums. For my money, Trevor Murrell outshines him, though. > > Doug > > > > ------------------------------ > > End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [06/04/2002 00:01] > ---------------------------------------------------- > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To UN Subscribe or change any of your list options, please go to: > the website listed above. ( http://www.brothersgibb.com ) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:35:33 +0100 From: "Julian Glass" Subject: Re: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) It's funny how the simplest of errors gets misunderstood. If the current band had made as many great records as the 75-79 band their names would be on the top of my tongue too ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:57:12 -0400 From: "Anne Simpson" Subject: Re: Party at the Palace THEY DECLINED???? OMG.... If anyone has newspaper coverage of all this (Jubilee and concert) and is willing to mail me copies, please let me know privately! Thanks, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "words List Member" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: Re: Party at the Palace > > As far as I know...the Bros were asked, but declined the invite. Definately > a mistake. > > Jean > (Off to hunt out all her old Queen CD`s) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:58:18 -0400 From: "Anne Simpson" Subject: Re: Party at the Palace They pride themselves on being Brits and after all, have just been granted CBEs. BIG mistake. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Quintana" To: "words List Member" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:10 AM Subject: RE: Party at the Palace > > Well, if they did it because of the recording of the new album I'll accept > many more mistakes like this. > > Toni. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:59:30 -0400 From: "Anne Simpson" Subject: Re: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) Don't take it personally Julian - we need topics of conversation! Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Glass" To: "words List Member" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) > It's funny how the simplest of errors gets misunderstood. If the current > band had made as many great records as the 75-79 band their names would be > on the top of my tongue too > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:38:15 -0700 From: "Christine Secrist" Subject: Re: Phil Collins ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C20B92.6789A580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In my opinion, Phil Collins is the best drummer around. 'Tis a pity he do= es not play them that much anymore. =20 Christine E. ----- Original Message ----- From: Julian Glass Douglas, yes you are right I meant Steve Rucker. I think being a top session musician means that you can read a score technically well and quickly to minimize stidio time. I don't think it necessarily makes you better at interpreting it. Let's face it Genesis we= re a fine band and much of it doen to Collins work. His drums on You Win Aga= in is in my view unsurpassedGet more from the Web. 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Just whisper the question in our ears and we'll mumble the names in our sleep.... :o) /Ronnie ===== ************************************** http://hem.passagen.se/rool8206/ ************************************** _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 07:16:27 -0700 From: "Christine Secrist" Subject: Re: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C20B97.BE210F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If one was to ask me who did a song between 1973-1984 I might be able to = answer (maybe) but if any were to ask me about most anything today, all I= could say is to me they all sound alike!! Christine E. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronnie Olsson Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:13 AM To: words List Member Subject: Re: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) --- Julian Glass skrev: > It's funny how the simplest of errors gets > misunderstood. If the current > band had made as many great records as the 75-79 > band their names would be > on the top of my tongue too Yeah, I guess all fans now them and the co-producers from that period and could easily name them when asked about it at 3 AM in the morning. =20 Probably won't even have to wake us up. Just whisper the question in our ears and we'll mumble the names in our sleep.... :o) /RonnieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explor= er.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C20B97.BE210F00-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:51:49 +0200 From: "Toni Quintana" Subject: RE: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) "If one was to ask me who did a song between 1973-1984 I might be able to answer (maybe) but if any were to ask me about most anything today, all I could say is to me they all sound alike!! Christine E." Sometimes I wonder what the songs they' ve released since 1.984 would have been like if the Barry-Karlby team had not ended. I suppose their name would be written in bigger letters in the music books than now because their current albums would surely be better. But on the other hand the brothers are very jealous to their music and this "self-production" period fits to me more to an agreement between the three of them, I mean, the Bee Gees are Barry Robin and Maurice, but with Karlby on the control room, Robin, and especially Maurice, where out of the game. This had to bring a lot of tension to the band and maybe they decided to loose some to keep the group united. I'm sure Barry had two choices: Going solo with Karlby but without his brothers, or go on with the Bee Gees giving Maurice the room he demanded as musical director. Family ties won. But that's just an opinion. Toni. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 11:50:13 -0400 From: Joseph Brennan Subject: RE: Digest (06/04/2002 06:01) (#2002-2693) --On Tuesday, June 4, 2002 16:51 +0200 Toni Quintana wrote: > I'm sure Barry had two choices: Going solo with Karlby but without his > brothers, or go on with the Bee Gees giving Maurice the room he demanded as > musical director. Family ties won. Actually Barry chose the former, starting in 1980. Only 'Living eyes' breaks a string of solo recording work up to 1986. Barry wrote songs with R & M but recorded with Albhy and Karl. Albhy got tired of it first. Meanwhile Maurice recorded with Robin and did film scores. I don't think Barry-Albhy-Karl was getting better after Streisand. That was a high point because they got top session players and a top lead singer. Then that turned into a formula too. What next? Albhy said he wanted to get off the endless studio tinkering and record Barry live with a band. That was a good and different idea, but it didn't go. End of that era. > But on the other hand the brothers are very jealous to their music and this > "self-production" period fits to me more to an agreement between the three > of them, There's something to this. I can't say why but I get the impression sometimes that doing everything together is dragging it down. Robin's interesting "solo" stuff on TIWICI perhaps suggests this, and actually so do Barry's "solo" songs which sound more varied than his "Bee Gees" formula songs. Joe Brennan ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [06/04/2002 12:01] ----------------------------------------------------